Sunday, July 24, 2011

National Security & Science: Hitler's Scientists & Operation Paperclip 3a

Just how much further advanced were the Germans than the United States at the end of World War II?

Most Americans do not understand just how far along Nazi Germany was in just all areas of science and technology.

How close was Hitler to winning the war?  Many, including General Eisenhower commander of all allied forces in Europe thought that they were very close.  Indeed, if Hitler had ordered the kind of development he ordered in 1943 just one year earlier, it is quite possible that there would have been a stalemate and the Allies would have had to sue for peace, leaving Hitler in charge of most of Europe.  It is possible that New York City, Washington D.C. and Boston might have had atomic bombs detonated on them causing the deaths of millions of Americans.  This brings us to the main question we ask ourselves, did the technology we captured from the Germans after World War II propel the United States into a secret two tier structure of classified science and public science like existed in Nazi Germany during World War II?  Did we learn our black projects by copying the SS structure built by Heinrich Himmler?
...if the German had succeeded in perfecting and using these new weapons six months earlier than he did, our invasion of Europe would have proved exceedingly difficult, perhaps impossible. I feel sure that if had succeeded in using these weapons over a six-month period, and particularly if he had made the Ports-mouth-Southampton area one of his principal targets, Overlord might have been written off.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Crusade In Europe

The Scientists and the Weapons
Rocket Weapons
Von Braun
When most who know about the German scientists who were brought over to America, they think of Werner Von Braun, the famous Nazi rocket scientist and Major in the SS.  Some might remember him for his work in the Apollo Missions to the moon.  But this same man who led us to the moon, during World War II had been ordered to devise a rocket that could reach New York City from Germany to deliver an atomic bomb codenamed the Amerika Rakete. Von Braun was not working alone.  There were other working with him, among them were Walter Dornberger, and Herman Oberth (who had been von Braun's professor).

the A series rockets the V2 rocket was also the A4

The A9 inside the A10
The A10 rocket designed by these men, was a multistage rocket which would take the piloted rocket on a one way trip to its destination.  It would be a German suicide mission to its target.  Both of these men had been given the date of early 1946 to have a working version.  The results of such a ship, could have caused mass destruction over New York City so as to make the 9/11 attack seem trivial.

We include these videos on the German Atomic program and their delivery system.  If you cannot see the embedded video, here is the link:

Atomic Weapons
Walter Gerlach
It is generally believed that the Allies were more advanced in German nuclear weapons technology than the Nazis.  There is strong circumstantial evidence that this is not true. Nuclear research in Germany was very compartmentalized (like most of the other secret research).  Even people as highly placed as Albert Speer, Hitler's Minister of Armaments and War Production were not aware of the progress in the nuclear research.  

Most think that the main atomic research was done by Werner Heisenberg (from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle).  But since the reunification of Germany, more information from the East German archives has surfaced about the parallel programs Nazi Germany was running in regards to nuclear research.  Some of the key figures at are emerging from this newly discovered research are Walter Gerlach and Kurt Diebner.  It appears that these two men were involved in other programs of nuclear development apart from the well known one of Heisenberg.

Kurt Diebner
Even when it came to American World War II nuclear bomb technology there were differences.  Again most think that the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the same.  They were not.  The bomb dropped on Hiroshima named "big boy" was a gun-type bomb (called this because it shot one piece of sub-critical material into another as if it were an artillery barrel) using Uranium-235.  The bomb used in Nagasaki called "fat man" was an implosion type device using Plutonium-239.  Uranium-235 is a rare material naturally found in nature.  Plutonium-239 is synthetic being manufactured in Nuclear reactors.

Gerlach was the senior man who held a position as professor of physics at the University of Tubingen until May of 1945.  He was also appointed head of the physics section of the Reichforschungsrat which dealt with all basic research except for aeronautical research.

Certainly Hitler bragged about such weapons when he told a meeting of Axis leaders (as witnessed by Italian officer Luigi Romersa and cited in Joseph Ferrell's book, Reich Of The Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons & The Cold War Allied Legend) in April 1944 that,
We have invisible aircraft, submarines, colossal tanks and cannon, unbelievably powerful rockets, and a bomb with a working that will astonish the whole world. The enemy knows this, and besieges and attempts to destroy us. But we will answer this destruction with a storm and that without unleashing a bacteriological war, for which we are also prepared.... All my words are the purest truth.
Apparently, the British were aware of separate nuclear programs working along different lines.  This source originates from the research of Mayer and Mehner in their book, Die Atombombe und das Dritte Reich: das Geheimnis des Dreiecks Arnstadt-Wechmar-Ohrdruf) translated The atomic bomb and the Third Reich: the secret of the triangle-Arnstadt-Wechmar Ohrdruf .  In this book they cite the statement made by this British intelligence officer:
...there was also the fourth team, about which we heard rumors during the last phase of the war. This was certainly so shadowy and fantastic, that one could only construe it as a ploy. But after the war it became evident that the world had avoided a colossal catastrophe by a hair's breath.... This fourth team worked in a field that was monstrous on a daily basis. And when I say this, I meant thereby that they experimented with things that a well-informed public would to thus very day think then to be unthinkable and unbelievable, and thus imaginary. I mean to imply that these specialists worked in conceptions that totally abandoned conventional physical laws.
But there is more anecdotal evidence.  This Italian office Luigi Romersa claims to have been an eyewitness to a nuclear detonation on October 11, 1944 on the island of Rugen in the 1  Joseph Farrell quoting Maher and Mehner recounts the first hand account of Romersa,
"We will see the test of the disintegration bomb.  It is the most powerful explosive that has yet been developed.  Nothing can withstand it." said one of them.  He hardly breathed.  He glanced at his watch and waited until noon, the hour for the experiment.  Our observation post was a kilometer from the point of the explosion.  "We must wait here," the man with the worker's clothes ordered, "until this evening.  When it is dark we may leave.  The bomb gives off deathly rays, of utmost toxicity.  Ifs effective area is much larger than the most powerful conventional bomb.  Around 1.5 kilometers...."  Around 4:00PM, in the twilight, shadows appeared running toward our bunker.  They were soldiers, and they had on a strange type of "diving suit."  They entered and quickly shut the door....We also eventually had to put on white, coarse, fibrous cloaks.  I cannot say what material this cloak was made of, but I had the impression that it could have been made of asbestos.  The headgear had a piece of mica-glass in front of the eyes.
The houses that I had seen only an hour earlier had disappeared broken into little pebbles of debris.  As we moved nearer to ground zero, the more fearsome was the devastation.  The grass had the same color as leather.  The few trees that still stood upright had no more leaves. 
This certainly sounds to us like a nuclear detonation.

What is most interesting about this is that there is another eyewitness to this event - a German pilot.  In an affidavit dated August 19, 1945, roll number A1007, filmed in 1973 at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, the pilot named Zinsser states,
In the beginning of Oct, 1944 1 flew from Ludwigslust (south of Lubeck), about 12 to 15 km from an atomic bomb test station, when I noticed a strong, bright illumination of the whole atmosphere, lasting about 2 seconds. 48. The clearly visible pressure wave escaped the approaching and following cloud formed by the explosion. This wave had a diameter of about 1 km when it became visible and the color of the cloud changed frequently. It became dotted after a short period of darkness with all sorts of light spots, which were, in contrast to normal explosions, of a pale blue color.
He then goes on to state,
About an one hour later I started with an Hel 11 from the A/D at Ludwigslust and flew in an easterly direction.  Shortly after the start I passed through the almost complete overcast (between 3000 and 4000 meter altitude).  A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent, billowing sections (at about 7000 meter altitude) stood, without any seeming connections, over the spot where the explosion took place.  Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lightning turned up. 
To even make this stranger, Ferrell connects a outage over Berlin of the telephone service occurring at this same time which was noticed by the British.  This notice appeared in the London Daily Mail October 11,1944:

Berlin is still cut off from the rest of Europe tonight.  The 60 hours silence began on Sunday morning - and still there is no explanation for the hold-up, which has now lasted longer than on any previous occasion.  The Swedish Foreign Office is unable to ring up its Berlin Legation.  Unconfirmed reports suggest that the major crisis between the Wehmacht and the Nazi Party has come to a head and that "tremendous events my be expected."...It is pointed out, however in responsible quarters that if the stoppage were purely the technical result of bomb damage, as the Germans claimed, it should have been repaired by now.
Is this all coincidence?  In our next installment, we shall continue with more collected testimony of "nuclear" type detonations, some of which, were actually used in battle against the Soviets by the Germans.

Joseph Ferrell, Reich Of The Black Sun: Nazi Secret Weapons & The Cold War Allied Legend, Unlimited Adventures Pr, 2005.


Jason Taylor said...

Quite a cliffhanger!  But I'm a skeptic.

Guillermo Santamaria said...

Thanks for reading and sharing your opinion.

Anonymous said...


Simon Gunson, New Zealand said...

At Farm Hall captured nuclear scientist Prof Heisenberg was noted in transcripts of conversations with other scientists revealing that through Lisbon Hitler was warned in July 1944 to sue for peace within 6 weeks or Dresden would be attacked with an Atomic bomb. Prof Harteck confirmed this in a letter to Joseph Borakin. A lone B-29 was brought to England from March to May 1944 and given huge publicity. There were even German sightings of it overflying Austria!

Churchill at the same time threatened to use the RAF to drop Anthrax all over Germany, thus starving the German nation in under 2 weeks. Because Hitler was not ready to deploy nuclear weapons he had no choice but to abandon his nukes however he still used the threat of allowing the technology to fall into Soviet hands to pursue negotiations with USA.

According to Nuremberg evidence used against the V-2's General Dornberger, both he and Von Braun were sent to Lisbon in late 1944 for secret surrender talks with two men from General Electric...

This explains the $64,000 question why if Hitler had nukes did Germany lose the war?