National Security & Science 2b

Bill Rich and Skunkworks say that they are at least a hundred years ahead of what the average person and mainline public science knows about aeronautics and propulsion systems?  How can that be?  What are the sources for this kind of information?


We will continue with some information about who Bill Rich is and what Skunkworks is for uninitiated.

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Skunkworks is a part of Lockheed Martin Corporation.  It was founded in 1943 by one of the greatest legends in the aeronautics industry - Kelly Johnson.  Skunkworks developed legendary World War II warplanes like the P-38, and the first American jet fighter, the P-80.  It would go on to produce such essential warplanes as the U2 spy plane used in the late fifties and sixties and the well known SR-71 "Blackbird"spy plane. It also produced the generation of stealth planes the F-117 Nighthawk, as well as stealth Unmanned Air Vehicles (UAV).  There are many other black projects that we are not aware that they are presently working on.

Ben Rich took over Skunkworks upon the death of Kelly Johnson in 1975.  Ben Rich became the stuff of legends himself, being inducted into the National Aviation Hall of Fame in 2005.  The question that we have is why did Ben Rich supposedly make such controversial comments about the level of technology Skunkworks had?  We have tried to trace the sources of these comments.  Jane Goodall appears to us to be a very good source because of he is.  Nick Cook appears to us to be another reputable source, who would be very careful to check out the sources of his information.  Nick Cook in his book, The Hunt For Zero Point, states on page 117, "It was Rich who'd once told me of a place - a virtual warehouse - where ideas that were too dangerous to transpose into hardware were locked away forever, like the Ark of the Covenant in the final scene of Raiders Of The Lost Ark."  These comments in general agree with more specific statements he made in the 1990s before he died.

Other words attributed to Rich,

A few weeks ago I posted a message about Ben Rich, the late head of the

Lockheed Skunk Works and his statement about UFOs, that some of them are theirs and that some of them are ours.

Then I found the following statement in a paper emailed to me from Bill McDonald.

"In 1993, at an engineering conference in Los Angeles, Dr. Ben R. Rich stated to the future Section Director of the Mutual UFO Network of Orange County, California, engineer Jan Harzan, that we already had in our possession the technology to take us to the stars. This was in a conference room full of aerospace and computer engineers from many different aerospace and software companies."

Well, it just so happens that Jan was the source of the rumor that Ben Rich made statements in a presentation he gave to the group of engineers which happened to be members of a UCLA Alumni association who were invited to hear this presentation by Ben Rich on March 23, 1993.

The late Ben R. Rich, a UCLA School of Engineering alumnus (MS '50) who is known as the "Father of Stealth," is recognized as one of the best aircraft engineers in the world and led development of the heralded F-117 stealth fighter.

Knowing Jan, I called him to clarify what Ben said at this presentation to UCLA engineering alumni. I work at UCLA and am only steps away from the engineering building.

Here is what Jan, a Senior Project Executive with Boeing told me about Ben's presentation:

-Ben showed slides and went through the history of the Skunk Works. Showed pics of U2 and SR-71 and drones that no one had seen before.

-The kicker was the last slide. It showed a black disk headed for space.

Ben showed this and made the statement, "We now have the technology to take ET home". He made this statement in 1993, but did not say how long we have had this tech.

There was a Q&A after the lecture. In this Q&A, he told the engineers that it was now possible to travel to the stars. There was an error in the equations which was corrected. The time of travel is fast, but he didn't say how fast.

Ben said he believed that security was too oppressive and that the time had come to develop this technology in the commercial world now that the cold war has ended. Months later he died of cancer.

Jan is going to consult with his friend Tom who was also present and do an article on this in a future MUFON Journal.

I thanked Jan and we plan to meet again soon.

As far as I am concerned, Ben Rich had seen the smoking gun.

sincerely, 

Bill McDonald 

There is some compelling evidence in the form of actual written correspondence found in the site abovetopsecret posted by uforeality from July of 1986.  John Anderson poses a question to Bill Rich,

Bill Rich responds,

We include more words attributed to Bill Rich in an article that appeared in the May 2010 issue of the MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) UFO Journal via ufo-blogger.  According to ufo-blogger, Tom Keller has worked for NASA at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.  We were unable to find his bio but he is connected with NASA's Stardust Mission since his name was written in the spacecraft along with other contributors to the project.

Also ufo-blogger quotes another set of questions to Bill Rich which John Andrews took to him.  It is unclear who gave these questions to John Andrews.  We quote what was attributed to Ben Rich,

1. There are 2 types of UFOs -- the ones we build and ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual "hand-me-downs." The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon "purge", administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector… 

2. Nearly all "biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft -- from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft… 

3. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told [about UFOs and extraterrestrials] . He believed they could not handle the truth -- ever. Only in the last months of his decline did he begin to feel that the "international corporate board of directors" dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger problem to citizens' personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of off-world visitors themselves.”

The purpose of quoting this information is not to present convincing information about the existence of extraterrestrial UFOs (although if these statements are true, it is compelling) but, to simply prove our point that the government may have technology that is way advanced beyond that publicly admitted.  This information would seem to demonstrate two types of science, classified and public.

In our next installment we will discuss what the Germans may have been developing during World War II.